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[bombero]

It originated at caesars downton revolution ave. Has anyone eaten a salad there?

[Daniel]

Yes. But not under current ownership.

This place has changed a lot over the years. Sadly, it went downhill. There are signs, however, that it is trying to make a comeback. I hope so. Perhaps somebody else has current information.

[richsinc]

Been there once years ago.
Supposedly the chef ran out of mayo or salad dressing for some important dude and used eggs and some cheeses to mix with the greens.

[fatboy]

the caesar salad is not what you think.

they use whole leaves of romaine lettuce and they drizzle the caesar salad dressing on top of it.
it is not mixed together the way they make it in the u.s.

the dressing tastes different than your traditional caesar and it is sweeter.

is it a good salad? yes.
but it is not what one considers to be a caesar.

[richsinc]

Hey!

I was just relating what I heard about how Caesar Salad came to be; not how to make it in Mexico or US!

Who are "they"???

I prefer a Chef's Salad with the ham and cheese and lots of Bleu Cheese chunky but what do I know? Maybe just my tastes???

Not a food-aholic..... I weigh maybe 175lbs.

Best Veal Cordon Bleu: Trossenfurth, Germany hunting lodge.

Best Filet Mignon: Officers Club, Bamberg, Germany; $2.50 with bacon.

Best Bier: Thien. Forgot the town.........

So there!

richsinc

[sugarpaws]

....not to mention the Caesar dressing for an authentic Caesar salad is way different from what most people think of when they hear the now generic "caesar salad". I used to make many a night ..tableside, with the raw egg , worchester sause , anchovies, locotelli romano cheese etc! It is not just a tossed salad. anyway!....

[sdc]

Ceaars is my place I'm there around 3 or 4 times a week know the owner and most the staff best thing on the menu is the Ceasar salad with a chicken breast....the salad is very good....This is next door to Ceasar's Hotel the resturant in the bar called Little Ceasar's

[Tcat]

It originated at caesars downton revolution ave. Has anyone eaten a salad there?

Last weekend. Done up tableside quite proper. I also stayed at the motel which is fine and getting a serious make over....

[Tj 4 Rent]

I agree the Caeser's Salad with Chicken Breast is Excellent! They do it right at the table. Ask them for extra lettuce and they gladly make it how you want it. And the Beer is ice cold too!

They are also credited with creating the margarita too!

[George Costanza]

I also heard that a place in Tijuan was credited with the invention of the marg. Found this info on a Tequlia site.
"The margarita was allegedly invented in the 1940s (possibly 1938) at the Rancho La Gloria bar, Tijuana, by bartender Carlos 'Danny' Herrera for fledgling actress Marjorie (Margarita) King who was allergic to most other kinds of alcohol. An alternate legends says Francisco 'Pancho' Morales, a bartender in Tommy's Bar in Ciudad Juarez, made the first margarita on July 4, 1942.

Yet another story attributes the drink to Margarita Sames, a Texas socialite who brewed up the cocktail for guests at her Acapulco villa, as a challenge in 1948. Her friend Tommy Hilton allegedly took it from there to his hotel chain. In late 1999, she was introduced as the drink's originator at a book signing for The Original Guide to Margaritas and Tequila (BarMedia) by Tucson authors Robert Plotkin and Raymon Flores.

Danny Negrete, manager of the Crespo Hotel in Puebla, is named as creator of the drink for his girlfriend in 1936. Other stories place its origin in various Mexican towns, particularly along the US border, or and even in California any time between 1930 and 1950. Regardless of its real or imagined beginnings, margaritas are now one of the most popular cocktails in North America and continue to boost tequila sales."

[richsinc]

More than you probably want to know but while Wikiing.....

Caesar salad was invented in 1924 by Caesar Cardini. Cardini was an Italian restaurateur and chef in Tijuana, Mexico, living in San Diego but working in Tijuana to avoid the restrictions of Prohibition. There are several stories about the specifics of the salad's creation. The most common is that it resulted from a Fourth of July rush depleting the kitchen's supplies, and Cardini made do with what he had, adding the dramatic flair of a table-side tossing. Another is that it was created for a group of Hollywood stars after a long weekend party.

Most stories say that Cardini had to whip something up from what he had left in his kitchen, and the Caesar salad was the result. The Hotel César still exists in downtown Tijuana, where the original dish is still served.

Recipes
A Caesar salad is generally made from the following ingredients:
romaine lettuce
croutons
lemon juice
olive oil
Parmesan cheese
raw, coddled or hard-boiled egg yolks
fresh-ground black pepper
Worcestershire sauce
The original Caesar salad recipe did not contain anchovies; the slight anchovy flavor came from Worcestershire sauce. Cardini was actually opposed to using anchovies in his salad. Most modern recipes now include anchovies as chopped fillets or in paste form.

Julia Child, in her book, From Julia Child's Kitchen, describes how she ate a Caesar's salad at Cardini's restaurant as a child in 1924, and many years later she sought out Cardini's daughter, Rosa Cardini, in order to discover the original recipe. Rosa Cardini's recipe differs from those that appear in the links below. In particular, the lettuce is served whole on the plate. It is meant to be lifted by the stem and eaten with the fingers. It calls for coddled eggs but no anchovies.

Some recipes include one or more of mustard, avocado, tomato, bacon bits, garlic cloves, or anchovies. Many restaurants offer a more substantial salad by topping a Caesar salad with grilled chicken, grilled salmon or shrimp. The salad today is served at several Italian and some Mexican restaurants, with certain Mexican restaurants improvising on occasional items such as substituting tortilla strips for croutons and Cotija cheese for the Parmesan.

The Cardini family licensed the original recipe early on, and bottled Cardini Caesar salad dressing is still available, sans anchovies. Many other bottled versions are sold now, as well, including Morgan's and Newman's Own.

Raw egg and salmonella
Many people are concerned about the safety of Caesar salads due to the potential risk of infection by salmonella bacteria occasionally found in raw eggs. This is a concern with many similar dressings like mayonnaise, though in most cases, the pH level is thought to be acidic enough to kill the bacteria. Nevertheless, later versions of the recipe call for briefly-cooked coddled eggs or pasteurized eggs. Even a switch to chopped, hard-boiled eggs has not prevented sporadic outbreaks of salmonella from restaurant-made Caesar salads. Today, many recipes omit the egg and produce a Caesar vinaigrette.

Not true:
Bandits invading Julius Caesar's birthday party seeking lettuce. Caesar shows them a truly beautiful salad. The bandit chief replies, "We come to seize your salad, not to praise it!"

Julius Caesar greets a guest with the statement "Welcome to Rome. Care for some salad? I made it myself."

Now to check out margaritas...

[richsinc]

Milky especially;

There are 4 main contenders for the title of creator of the Margarita Cocktail.

A Blended Margarita served in Old Town San Diego Danny Negrete (invented 1936)
According to Salvador Negrete, the son of Daniel Negrete, the family story goes that Daniel opened a bar at the Garci Crispo hotel with his brother, David. The day before David's marriage, Daniel presented the Margarita as a wedding present to Margarita, his sister-in-law.
It was a combination of one-third Triple Sec, one-third Tequila and one-third squeezed Mexican lime juice. The drink was not blended and was served with hand-crushed ice.
Ratios: 1:1:1 = 6:6:6 (33% tequila, 33% Triple Sec, 33% fresh lime juice).

Francisco 'Pancho' Morales (invented 4th of July, 1942)
In Texas, a bartender, Pancho Morales invented the Margarita on July 4, 1942, at a Juárez bar named Tommy's Place. Supposedly, a woman requested a Magnolia (brandy, Cointreau, and an egg yolk topped with Champagne). Morales was a little fuzzy on the recipe; he improvised and his ersatz creation was a big hit. (Reference: "The Man Who Invented the Margarita," TM, October 1974.)

Carlos ”Danny” Herrera (invented 1947)
"Carlos "Danny" Herrera mixed a jigger of white tequila with lemon juice and Triple Sec, creating a smooth and salt concoction he named "Margarita", in October/November of 1947/1948
The bar was Rancho La Gloria, midway on the old road that connected Tijuana with Rosarito Beach. A showgirl and sometime actress who called herself Marjorie King was one of the customers, who was allergic to hard liquor, except for tequila, but she didn't like to drink it straight or even with a lemon and salt.
Mr. Herrera started experimenting and came up with a concoction that was three parts white tequila, two parts Cointreau and one part fresh lemon juice. He added shaved ice and blended the mixture with a hand shaker.
Ratios: 3:2:1 = 6:4:2 (50% tequila, double as much Triple Sec than fresh lime juice).

Margaret Sames (invented: December 1948)
Sames who created the drink at her Acapulco gave the reason of being "close with a lot of famous hotel and restaurant people" in introducing the Margarita. (Reference: Today's Columbus Woman, June 1994).
"Sames used one part Cointreau, three parts tequila and one part lime juice for her Margarita. Knowing that most people drank tequila preceded by a lick of salt, she chose to garnish her cocktail with a rim of coarse salt. (Reference: America’s Cocktail by Robert Plotkin.)
Ratios: 3:1:1 = 6:2:2 (60% tequila, 20% Triple Sec, 20% fresh lime juice).

Now, does anyone know of a place in TJ that makes a great Manhattan? They don't even know how to make them right in San Diego, leaving out the bitters and getting the ratio wrong. Haven't had a good one in years..

[fatboy]

I always thought that the margarita was invented in Hussong's in Ensenada.

It was named after the actress Rita Hayworth.

[andy]

For a good Caesar salad, try the one at La Diferencia. 60 pesos, prepared tableside, with the original ingredients (plus anchovies)... even has the raw eggs. Very good.

[Tcat]

general location?

[mikethedog]

general location?

You can do a search of the forum.
Here's TijuanaBlog's entry of La Diferencia:

http://www.tijuanabl...topic.php?t=118

mikethedog

[Tcat]

Well the last couple trips to the sports bar and grill we're sad...

Took my nephew and the place was closed.

The next trip it was sorta open... The differences slipped past me.

Bottom line: The hotel has taken out the door between the lobby and door to the bar. Leased out the space. It is now a "gentleman's club".

I found out when I went to the bathroom after ordering the salad and had a young man introduce his "cousin" who was there to 'take care' of me. I thanked them both and said I would like to take care of heading to the banos. (bathroom).

The salad. I have had better food from MC Donald's. Sadly, no kidding. Paid in advance, got store prep dressing with powered cheese on top. @ 9.00 USD!! I could have taken the Community Taxi and done a proper table side salad at Chambert @ the Rosorito Beach Motel for that and tipped both the staff and the CT driver!

Avoid, unless you really want to meet the cousin.

Sorry.

Tcat