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#1 sandyr

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 02:14 AM

Does anyone know if I can get Mexican citizenship (or resident if that is available) being married to a Mexican National?
We are going to be moving to Mexico and I'm looking for the easiest way to live there. I assume our kids would have no trouble getting their citizenship.
Thanks for any help!

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 04:13 AM

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 04:34 AM

Note to Moderator, there needs to be new threads: Mexican Nationality and another on Mexican immigration.

You may apply to naturalize as a Mexican after two years of marriage.

Here is the translation of the Mexican Nationality Law:
http://translate.goo...Flanguage_tools

http://www.sre.gob.m...acionalidad.htm

The application can be made online here by clicking on the Cartas de Naturalización button "POR MATRIMONIO VIA INTERNET" at this link.
http://proteo1.sre.gob.mx/nacion/

Children may derive nationality/citizenship from parents and by place of birth.

You don't need to get married to obtain a resident visa (FM3 or FM2). Americans can hang out in Mexico for 6 months at a time with the tourist card (FMT) which requires no aplication process.

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 04:43 AM

No, you don't automatically get citizenship either.

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 03:22 PM

You also must renounce your original nationalities when you naturalize.

http://portal.sre.go...t...e&SubMenu=l

Presently the U.S. doesn't consider you to have renounced during naturalization. Similarly Mexico no longer considers nationality by birth renouncable. Since Mexico considers a naturalized citizen not to have other nationalities, males get to do military service.

http://www.banderasn...mexcitizens.htm

Furthermore, you may find as a naturalized Mexican you will face official discrimination, denying your civil rights, sellectively being stripped of your nationality at critical times.

http://www.csmonitor...03s01-woam.html

Even as a Mexican by birth, I have experienced the same.

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 05:09 PM

The only reason I see to do it is for purchasing property. This I may do but since the US doesn't consider you to have renounced, I would keep my US nationality for all other matters.

A friends father did this, he was Mexican by birth but was a naturalized American as a child. He had to renounce the US citizenship to get his Mexican citizenship back (this was quite a few years ago). But the US is not notified that he rounounced it. He has citizenship of both countries now.

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 05:49 PM

Purchasing property is something that married people do. The owner of a property is the registered owner. It doesn't matter who paid for it. A foreigner would not have community property rights on Mexican land. Without Mexican nationality, it is an unequal marriage in Mexico.

Let's say a foreign spouse pays for a property, the Mexican spouse is effectively a "prestanombre" in the case of no fidecomiso. The foreign spouse has no legal rights to the property. In the case of a divorce or death, the property will be owned by the registered owner or by the owner's Mexican family.

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 06:35 PM

Which is why I would get the naturalization and mexican citizenship to purchase property in Mexico wihout fidecomiso. So that the property would not go to my Mexican wife's family should something happen to us..

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 07:48 PM

Chiquito, www.consulmexsf.com says mothly income requirement is $1000 .
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Posted 10 October 2005 - 09:00 PM

Thanks, I didn't remember the exact number.
When I applied in San Diego they said it was too low at $2,000 a month for one person. They were only looking at one account though. But they insisted on seeing my original acta de matrimonio as well to prove I was married to a mexican national.

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Posted 12 November 2005 - 05:31 PM

I have an FM3. But I don't think I'll be buying anything in Mexico anyway so it's moot.




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