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#1 AcapulcoGringo

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 04:22 PM

Ok Evertone that remembers me from before (2 weeks ago) I just got back yesterday from a week in TJ. I went with a friend to Buy a car and some clothes to sell... and I scoute things out some.. I have to say the parts I seem of TJ I didnt like.. BUT I am sure I didnt see it all....

We stayed on Ave Revolution a few blocks from Hard Rock and it was horrible!!!!! We were accousted 100 times a day, people seemed shady and slimy, etc etc.. Now, I know some will sya that we shouldnt have stayed there.. BUT we flew in and spoke to a few people and it as recomeneded as a cheap place to stay , but safe...

It seems if you are a Gringo, you cant walk to street without being accousted over and over.,.. I know , in the rest of Mex its the same and even in Acapulco, BUT not near as bad...

Also, the people there seem very Bold, and fast talking... Even my Mexican frind that i went together with...said this..

And the food was rediculously exspensive!!! The "Gringo Price" in TJ seems to be more prevelent than elsewhere..

Sao with all this said.. Did i just not see the right parts of TJ?? Is there a big difrence?

PLEASE let me know what I missed and what you all think of my comments....

I have to say I feel disapointed...

Thanks for the feedback, any and all are appriciated, Because I still need to move to the area, next month, and anything is helpfull!!\\
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 04:28 PM

You stayed in the Revo area (not somewhere I would have recommended) and that is the way it is. Tourism is down so they are working even harder to make a buck. I rarely ever even head down to that part of town nor fo the locals. As far as the food being expensive - could you tell me where you ate? There is a little bit of everything in Tijuana...



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Posted 10 June 2008 - 05:39 PM

in a nutshell what did you miss? - Everything

When i get some time i will go over some things. You stayed in an area that is dependant on gringo dollars so everything is priced higher.
Tijuana is much more than Revolution ave
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 06:28 PM

OK, I believe you the part of town was very dependant on Gringo $.. Ww noticed all the closed locales.. and Hard Rock sitting empty night after night.. we was going to go 3 times bUt each time, NOONE was ther at all... (I am normally not a hard rock type of person, we was hungry and tired of Carl's Jr) I normally eat local, cheap food, between 30-50 pesos a meal here in Acapulco.. But didt see anything like that in the area we were in..

We also went to Buenas Aires to look for a car, and on the way back stopped at a really nice mall (cant remember where exactly)((It was close to Waldos Distribution center) anyway we also went close to the airport, etc etc... I did not get to go to the Playas, or any other place mentiojned before...

I was obviously closer to San Ysudro than Otay , and we didnt go to Otay this time.. The only thing I liked about the SY crossing was the Las Americas Outlet.. My friend and I bought a lot of clothes for him to sell... (I may start that also) and the Trolly was very nice too (although we only used it a short while to go to a Dr's Appoint)

I guess, I will just refer back to older post as to best places to live.... I was want to make sure that they are nothing like the TJ (Centro) that I seen....

Any other help would be great!!

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 09:43 PM

As mentioned you stayed in probably the worst place you could have in the city. I don't like to visit Ave Revulsion for more than a minute or two. Buenos Aires (which is technically in Otay) isn't so nice but it's away from the tourist mess. If the mall was near there it may have been Plaza Monarca which is very nice.

I've never seen Hard Rock Cafe in Tijuana have many people. Probably one of the least visited bars there is there.

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 09:47 PM

Wrong place to stay. You need to rent or bring a car and go somewhere outside of Ava. Revolucion. Even just walking up one more block to Constitucion would have seen the hawkers disappear.

The taco stands on any corner are a buck, a buck 40 with everything. It's super cheap. Or go to Ricardo's by the Jai Alai. Or drive to Rosarito, or Puerto Nuevo, or Ensenda, or go to CECUT or...

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 10:21 PM

QUOTE (Chiquito @ Jun 10 2008, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never seen Hard Rock Cafe in Tijuana have many people. Probably one of the least visited bars there is there.


I've never once visited in all my years here...



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Posted 10 June 2008 - 11:41 PM

So it seems ,its unanimous that I stayed in the wrong plce... lolo... leave it to me to go to TJ to learn the place and choose the worste place.. I did find a nice Italian Rest. maybe 3 blockds past Sanbourns on Rev... It seemed to be ran by gringos, But not sure... Little expensive, But the Pizza was good, and reasonable on price.. (cheaper than Pizza Hut ..YUUKK)

I have a question.. From Las Playas, can one get a Colectivo or bus to get to YS crossing??

I will try and do some internet reasearch on las playas to see if I can see some pics, etc.. (Any Ideas?)

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 09:33 PM

QUOTE (AcapulcoGringo @ Jun 10 2008, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a question.. From Las Playas, can one get a Colectivo or bus to get to YS crossing??


Playas de Tijuana, actually only one playa. There are 3 rutas from Centro, one runs 24 hours. You could either walk from Centro to the border or take a different ruta or bus. There is a bus route from Playas to Buena Vista that stops in Colonia Federal near the San Ysidro crossing.

I stopped in the Hard Rock Cafe a few times. It usually is a safe bet to find a clean restroom as so few customers means it is not often used.


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Posted 17 June 2008 - 08:47 AM

QUOTE (AcapulcoGringo @ Jun 10 2008, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok Evertone that remembers me from before (2 weeks ago) I just got back yesterday from a week in TJ. I went with a friend to Buy a car and some clothes to sell... and I scoute things out some.. I have to say the parts I seem of TJ I didnt like.. BUT I am sure I didnt see it all....

We stayed on Ave Revolution a few blocks from Hard Rock and it was horrible!!!!! We were accousted 100 times a day, people seemed shady and slimy, etc etc.. Now, I know some will sya that we shouldnt have stayed there.. BUT we flew in and spoke to a few people and it as recomeneded as a cheap place to stay , but safe...

It seems if you are a Gringo, you cant walk to street without being accousted over and over.,.. I know , in the rest of Mex its the same and even in Acapulco, BUT not near as bad...

Also, the people there seem very Bold, and fast talking... Even my Mexican frind that i went together with...said this..

And the food was rediculously exspensive!!! The "Gringo Price" in TJ seems to be more prevelent than elsewhere..

Sao with all this said.. Did i just not see the right parts of TJ?? Is there a big difrence?

PLEASE let me know what I missed and what you all think of my comments....

I have to say I feel disapointed...

Thanks for the feedback, any and all are appriciated, Because I still need to move to the area, next month, and anything is helpfull!!\\
THGANKS



Dude!! after all the advise we gave you you end up in the worst place for a gringo in Tj, if you notice not even locals go there and that why you see so many shops closed down,and then you went to Col.Buenos Aires ..hell i would not even buy a coke from that place!!! watch out if you buy a used car it might be stolen either in the states or locally.

Theres a lot of SAFE inexpensive places to stay for a few days in a better area then were you stayed,my offer is still there.
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 02:37 PM

only thing thats cheaper in TJ is housing , gas and humen labor..

the food cost compare to US is not that much cheaper.

cost of utilities are about same or some times more because of insurlation.

your moving into another country where your rights are different than living in US..

so, if you do not mind dealing with infastructure of tijuana, how it works, than you will be OK..

i will tell you one thing, if these guys had the money to pay for rent in SD, most of them will move back to US...

its all about trading cost of living verses inconviences of every day life of TJ..

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 10:22 PM


As though there are no inconveniences in living in the US. Whatta crock, drchoi. Personally, I like the different pace of life and the value placed on family that exists better in Mexico than the US. You can find whatever you chose to find in Tijuana. Not everyone there is there because certain things are cheaper. As far as food - depends on what you want and how much you want to buy. Personally, I find shopping every day or so a much better way to buy groceries than buying a week to two weeks at a time as is routinely done in the US. Much fresher that way - and done in a lot of other countries. and that is an expensive way to shop for groceries in the US - much more so than in Tijuana. Yes, the infrastructure needs improvement, but so does University (pothole) Avenue. Water pipes bursting almost weekly and so on. Right here in the good old USA, City of San Diego. Further, our rights, such as they are, are being eroded daily by the administration of this country. who are you trying to kid? j.


QUOTE (drchoi @ Jun 17 2008, 07:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
only thing thats cheaper in TJ is housing , gas and humen labor..

the food cost compare to US is not that much cheaper.

cost of utilities are about same or some times more because of insurlation.

your moving into another country where your rights are different than living in US..

so, if you do not mind dealing with infastructure of tijuana, how it works, than you will be OK..

i will tell you one thing, if these guys had the money to pay for rent in SD, most of them will move back to US...

its all about trading cost of living verses inconviences of every day life of TJ..


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Posted 17 June 2008 - 10:33 PM

QUOTE (tijuanalunchbunch @ Jun 17 2008, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As though there are no inconveniences in living in the US. Whatta crock, drchoi. Personally, I like the different pace of life and the value placed on family that exists better in Mexico than the US. You can find whatever you chose to find in Tijuana. Not everyone there is there because certain things are cheaper. As far as food - depends on what you want and how much you want to buy. Personally, I find shopping every day or so a much better way to buy groceries than buying a week to two weeks at a time as is routinely done in the US. Much fresher that way - and done in a lot of other countries. and that is an expensive way to shop for groceries in the US - much more so than in Tijuana. Yes, the infrastructure needs improvement, but so does University (pothole) Avenue. Water pipes bursting almost weekly and so on. Right here in the good old USA, City of San Diego. Further, our rights, such as they are, are being eroded daily by the administration of this country. who are you trying to kid? j.



i love it when a someone twist my words, did i say their are no inconviences in living in US

did i say america people do not place value in family?

you could shop every day if you want in US ...lol

so you do not like changes american goverment makes year after year, so do i whats new...lol

next time read what i wrote instead of putting stuff i did not wrote

WAFI...lol

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 10:38 PM

Sometimes reading what you wrote is a bit difficult.


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Posted 17 June 2008 - 10:57 PM

yes indeed..its hard to read i wrote..

pot holes, every city has pot holes, every city has pipes bursting, every city has its own problems, every goverment has its own unique problems.

so, some people love tijuana and mexican family life, so do some americans love their own city and their family life

do you guys agree with tijuana offers more hassle free and convencies when going shopping, having kids attand school, less crime, drinking water. sending mail, paying bills, buying a house, buying a car, getting stopped by cops for driving with california plates, buying stuff other than food..ect..

many item you buy cost more in TJ than US...many guys live in tj not because of cost of housing...lol

read the lates news papers why wealthy mexican business owners are leaving tj to chula vista and other us boarder communities...lol





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Posted 17 June 2008 - 11:24 PM

My guess and of course this is just my uneducated guess is that 8 out of 10 Americans wouldn't be able to live in Tijuana. Meaning if 10 moved down 8 would be back within 6 months. It's not for everyone. If you can easily adapt and speak or have lived in Spanish communities then your chance will be higher.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions of Baja and of course we welcome all points.

I had a friend from work ask me to help move down here. He is single late 20's and is from Arizona. We got him a place in off Agua Caliente and he lived down here for 3 months.
His biggest problem was the border wait and being homesick, he didn't have satellite but cablemas and he doesn't speak a lick of Spanish. He moved back to the US and back to Arizona, the rents in San Diego were too much for him. He was sharing a place for $700 a month and paid 450 a month in Mexico but in the end the crossing was too much of an inconvenience for him. The owner of his apartment lived on site and treated him like a son and even invited over for dinner and party's and watched his place while he was gone. He was stopped twice by the police but no problems and no bribes were paid. He said "TJ is nice to visit but I couldn't adjust to the lifestyle here."

Again TJ is not for everyone.

Tijuana is much more than Revolution ave
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 04:40 AM


Mexican businessmen and the wealthy class have been leaving Tijuana for many, many years and for a wide variety of causes. Only a fool laughs at himself, drchoi, so laugh heartily. I know people who can afford to live anywhere and one of the places they choose is Tijuana. Put that into the proverbial pipe and have a toke of reality instead of dream inducing weed. Of course, a lot of them prefer other places because of better weather (sub-tropical) and smaller Cities. I would opt for Ensenada way ahead of Tijuana simply because it is smaller and the mountain bike riding closer and much, much better than anything Tijuana can offer. I lived in Guadalajara for a year while on contract. Had my supervisor been a more amiable person, I would have stayed there for much longer. To add to that, I was being paid on the Mexican scale for the job and was well able to keep my head above water at a third of what I make in the US. But here is the real goodie, drchoi, I can now work in US$ and live on pesos when I move. That is the best of both worlds. jim


QUOTE (drchoi @ Jun 17 2008, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes indeed..its hard to read i wrote..

pot holes, every city has pot holes, every city has pipes bursting, every city has its own problems, every goverment has its own unique problems.

so, some people love tijuana and mexican family life, so do some americans love their own city and their family life

do you guys agree with tijuana offers more hassle free and convencies when going shopping, having kids attand school, less crime, drinking water. sending mail, paying bills, buying a house, buying a car, getting stopped by cops for driving with california plates, buying stuff other than food..ect..

many item you buy cost more in TJ than US...many guys live in tj not because of cost of housing...lol

read the lates news papers why wealthy mexican business owners are leaving tj to chula vista and other us boarder communities...lol


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Posted 18 June 2008 - 03:37 PM

different stroks for different forks...lol



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Posted 18 June 2008 - 08:29 PM

If you think its hard to understand Choi when he's writing, you should hear him talk...I just nod my head and smile most of the time.... huh.gif rolleyes.gif blink.gif mellow.gif
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 08:30 PM

There are some pretty one-sided opinions here but Choi is not one of them....that is all i have to say...
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