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[BajaGringo]

say no to drugs
say yes to tacos

(i love that slogan. i wanna get that shirt)

I love it! If you find one tell me where you got it...

[Tj Jack]

I think we should have a tijuanablog.com poll regarding actual incidents and perceived safety.

In Tijuana, I have had 1 car stolen and 3 broken into... OVER A 24 YEAR PERIOD !!!

2 of the break ins were in the zona norte when I foolishly parked in the street instead of the parking facility. The other break in was in Buena Vista in front of my apartment but I foolishly left the car full of stuff I planned to sell at the sobre rueda the next day.....

In Newport Beach California I was shot in front of the Bank Of America while being robbed in broad daylight. Maybe if I gave him the deposit instead of throwing it on the roof he might not of shot me. Or maybe he would have anyway.

At the El Cajon Trolley Station I was robbed at knife point. I refused and got a small cut in this incident (7 stitches).

In Southern California I have had 3 cars stolen over my lifetime (but in all fairness I was a used car dealer so my risk was higher)

I personally feel safer in Tijuana than I do in Southern California

[BajaGringo]

It is a matter of perception and reality is often something we need to educate ourselves on. In all my years here I have suffered nothing worse than a garden shovel come up missing. In California I had vehicles stolen, my business broken into several times and employees assaulted in front of my business in north Long Beach which is not one of the better areas. I had a car stolen in Orange County and my home burglarized as well. I think that my "clean" record here in Baja is partly due to luck but more likely due to the fact that I use some good old common sense. Crime can happen to you anywhere - I recently heard from a friend whose business was burglarized in one of the nicer areas of Orange County, right next to the police station and across the street from a fire station. You would have thought that would be a fairly safe and secure area but it just goes to show that nothing is 100%. The US Consulate in Tijuana recently issued a travel warning for Tijuana due to a "rash" of attacks on tourists last fall. Here are a couple of facts:

From September to November 2007, there were 14 attacks reported on tourists in the border region. During the same time period there were 27 tourist attacks in California State Parks.

A recent press report sited that more Americans were arrested by Tijuana police than in any other foreign destination city. Of course! Tijuana was the #1 foreign city visited by Americans, simply because of the ease of it. More than 60 million persons crossed the border into Baja California last year. That is more than 1500 times more than the number who visited London.

In 2007 352 people were murdered in greater Tijuana. However, compared to US cities of about the same population, Tijuana falls in the 'also ran' category with 17.5 murders per 100,000 people. This compares to a safer San Diego, on the other side of the line with 5 murdered per 100K. However, a great number of US cities have higher murder rates; like Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas, Las Vegas and the winner (loser) New Orleans with more than 3 times the murder rate of Tijuana. Yet there is no travel warning for these cities?

The violence against US border agents makes prompt and colorful headlines in the US press. Rather, this should have been anticipated, when you squeeze a profitable business like the drug cartels which are, supported by American dollars, the bad guys are likely to push back. In looking at the statistics, there was no evidence that ANY innocent US citizen had been randomly killed in drug violence. There has not been an additional incident reported in Baja California since late November.

No place on earth can guarantee your safety but after living and working abroad in many countries I feel no less safe in Tijuana than any other large populated area. I attended a meeting last night where the head of Public Safety shared with local business owners and public officials some of the efforts being made and success that has been accomplished in the past several months. Any large police force has bad apples, perhaps because of low salaries Tijuana might have more. However I can assure you that there are many hard working, dedicated and passionate police and military officers working to keep our streets safe and putting their lives on the line to make it so. If you come across a bad cop they want to know. Follow one of the multiple mediums available to make an anonymous report and they will be investigated. Any officer receiving multiple anonymous reports is removed from duty now until the complaints can be further investigated. I think this is great progress and I support their efforts...

[Chiquito]

A lot depends on where you live in Tijuana as well. I have had many friends in very poor areas. Most all of them have been robbed multiple times.

Ex-GF Paty in Buena Vista had two cholos just walk into her house when she was watching TV, point a pistol at her and say "Shhhh...", took some stuff and left.

Two separate friends in Living in Zona Norte (not la Coahuila) had most all their possesions stolen from their apartments and were left destitute.

My wife had her computer and other items stolen from her closet in Laureles.

But if you are in a guarded, gated community (like Baja Gringo is) or at least have close and watchful neighbors (like I did in Playas), and you take reasonable precautions such as not parking on the street etc, you are much less likely to be a robbery victim.

Violent crime in Tijuana seems to be centered around narcotraficantes, police and politicians. If your not involved with them you are probably as safe as anywhere else in the world.

[BajaGringo]

That is true Chiquito - much as it is the same north of the border. The neighborhoods with the highest rates of burglaries in California are not in neighborhoods with expensive homes and cars. They are in the low-rent areas of town. Crime statistics show that the majority of burglaries are committed by a neighbor who lives within a 10 block radius. It's a sad reality.

[dreambrother]

say no to drugs
say yes to tacos

(i love that slogan. i wanna get that shirt)

I love it! If you find one tell me where you got it...

it is at the mexican restaurant on revolucion between gigante and burger king (on their side)-what is that? 2nd and 3rd? i always get (huge) bean burritos there. great service btw.

[BajaGringo]

I definitely want one - maybe if I have time tomorrow we'll run down and pick a couple up. Thanks for the info BTW!

[Chiquito]

I believe it is Los Panchos. I've had carne asada burritos there. While not the best I've had, they are definitely the biggest.

[dreambrother]

I believe it is Los Panchos. I've had carne asada burritos there. While not the best I've had, they are definitely the biggest.

one time i got a beef burrito there and since then i've stuck to bean burritos cause the meat was nothing but fat and gristle.

[Scooby]

Major shootout last night. I heard it a few blocks away. Wasn't even reported in the news in my colonia.
Was around 3:45 and 4:15am. They say 15 killed. Probably more down the street. :shock:

[Chiquito]

The San Diego news reported it today as 13 killed.

[jm0501]

After the recent violent events registered dawn today in Tijuana where he reported the death of at least 15 people in a clash between hired assassins, secretary of the municipal government, Luis Rodolfo Enriquez asked the citizenry to maintain calm and avoid leaving house unless necessary.

En representación del alcalde de Tijuana, Jorge Ramos, quien se encuentra en la ciudad de México en una reunión para atender precisamente asuntos en materia de seguridad pública, Luis Rodolfo Enríquez afirmó que la Policía Municipal se encuentra en alerta máxima realizando operativos por toda la ciudad para dar con los agresores. Representing the mayor of Tijuana, Jorge Ramos, who is in Mexico City at a meeting specifically to address matters of public security, Luis Rodolfo Enriquez said that the Municipal Police is conducting operations on high alert throughout the city to come up with the aggressors

[otayBill]

I didn't hear about it until my brother in LA called yesterday asking about it.

He said it was on all the local LA news.

[jm0501]

Interesting poll translated from El Mexicano newspaper.


Do you feel safe to walk around the city?

Yes No
Mexicali 38% 62%
Tijuana 4% 96%
Ensenada 45% 55%
Tecate 50% 50%
Rosarito 13% 87%

Do you feel safe inside your house?

Yes No
Mexicali 63% 37%
Tijuana 84% 16%
Ensenada 70% 30%
Tecate 65% 35%
Rosarito 32% 68%

Do you believe you could be victim of a kidnapping?

Yes No
Mexicali 46% 54%
Tijuana 82% 18%
Ensenada 46% 54%
Tecate 55% 45%
Rosarito 73% 27%

Do you believe you could be victim of an assault?

Yes No
Mexicali 81% 19%
Tijuana 98% 2%
Ensenada 89% 11%
Tecate 88% 12%
Rosarito 93% 7%

At some time have you been assaulted?

Yes No
Mexicali 26% 74%
Tijuana 20% 80%
Ensenada 25% 75%
Tecate 24% 76%
Rosarito 20% 80%

At some time has your house or car been robbed?

Yes No
Mexicali 63% 37%
Tijuana 15% 85%
Ensenada 65% 35%
Tecate 60% 40%
Rosarito 23% 77%

How to you think the insecurity has changed in the last 6 years?

Worse Better Same
Mexicali 66% 5% 29%
Tijuana 93% 5% 2%
Ensenada 76% 6% 18%
Tecate 70% 6% 24%
Rosarito 89% 3% 8%


http://www.ed.grandi..... ENS_18AA.pdf

Just testing the time on the new Invision Board
This is from the front page of the Tijuana News
http://www.frontera.info
Security
Dejan FREE arrested by Army
40% of people arrested succeeded his release because there were no elements to record
For Fausto Ovalle fovalle@frontera.info


At least 40% of persons detained by the army within the operational "We let it" has achieved its liberation, mainly because there were no elements for appropriation.
Since the operation began, "We are going yes" in mid-January this year, military forces have arrested 99 people for alleged crimes of federal jurisdiction.
The alleged offenders were placed at the disposal of the Attorney General of the Republic (PGR), where they were entered in the various District Courts.
According to information contained in the preliminary investigations, 99 of the 38 people detained succeeded his release because there were no elements for appropriation.
Among the cases that have transpired is that of Luis Romero Fierro, "The Hat", who was arrested in February with other twelve people, who managed his release following a ruling of Judge Sixth District.
Further arrests are six agents of the State Preventive Police (PEP), which were appropriated by organized crime, but were subsequently released by the same judge Sixth District.
The information contained in the preliminary investigations of each of those detained by the army in January detailing which seven people were insured, but none achieved their freedom immediately.

Notes that in February, military forces captured 47 suspected criminals were from federal, of whom 18 were released, among them Luis Romero and his accomplices.

In March, the number of people insured by the Army were 20, seven of whom achieved their freedom, either by determination by the judge or incompetence.
Regarding the month of April, the information of preliminary investigations states that 25 alleged criminals were arrested within the operational "We let them", of which twelve are already at liberty. Work
Arrested by the Army: Month Detainees Released
January 7 0
February 47 19
March 20 7
April 25 12

Well I Guess they Just apprehend the wrong people?
Thats what I always say when I get stopped
or The old Mexican phrase I W N C ,,, I A B T W