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#1 Scooby

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 04:49 PM

New "reverse" border inspections have begun ?

Haven't experienced it myself but heard of the change on the radio.

If true, there will likely be all sorts of repercussions to be felt.












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Posted 19 October 2008 - 05:11 PM

On the Otay Border the US closes all lanes going into Mexico except one during rushhour and does daily inspections.
Tijuana is much more than Revolution ave
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE (George Costanza @ Oct 19 2008, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On the Otay Border the US closes all lanes going into Mexico except one during rushhour and does daily inspections.

At all hours ?

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 09:17 PM

Not at all hours. I have only seen the "reverse" during the evening. It causes a 20 min backup. angry.gif

I now enter via the San Ysidro entry.

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 09:56 PM

I cross 5 days a week and its been done 4-5 times a week around 330pm thru 6. Sometime the wait can be more than 30mins to get in
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 12:01 AM

I was caught once in that mess. When they stop one car the whole line stops! They check current registration and license and if it's not current they take the car to the impound area with the tow trucks waiting. I think it's a big waste of resources.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 11:30 PM

I have been going down for 30 years plus, through the San Ysidro crossing, and never got a red light. The last 3 times I have gone down, my 76 yr old mother and I, have been stopped, red lighted twice. I could not believe it. We were coming down for the day, to settle house arrangements.

They looked in my trunk, and did not ask for any documents, but this is a new occurance. I don't look shiffty, and with an older lady in the car, give me a break.

Both times it was in the middle of the day between noon and two p.m.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 12:08 AM

QUOTE (rosaritoguerrita @ Oct 29 2008, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been going down for 30 years plus, through the San Ysidro crossing, and never got a red light. The last 3 times I have gone down, my 76 yr old mother and I, have been stopped, red lighted twice. I could not believe it. We were coming down for the day, to settle house arrangements.

They looked in my trunk, and did not ask for any documents, but this is a new occurance. I don't look shiffty, and with an older lady in the car, give me a break.

Both times it was in the middle of the day between noon and two p.m.

No red lights in 30 years ? That's amazing. With that kind of luck, I'd play blackjack. laugh.gif Honestly, you were probably long overdue.
If I'm not mistaken, I'd guess that the process is generally a mechanically random thing (unless somebody know otherwise).


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Posted 30 October 2008 - 12:33 AM

What is the reason they are doing this? any thoughts? Stolen cars shipped to tijuana?

Luckily for me by the time i am getting to the border it is about 8:30pm. 3 lanes open, and so far i have not gotten a red light. The only thing they can find are my tools....

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:28 PM

QUOTE (Buen Amigo @ Oct 29 2008, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is the reason they are doing this? any thoughts? Stolen cars shipped to tijuana? ......


I think that it would depend on who is stopping you. The officials of the US side or the Mexican side.

Maybe the US side is looking for someone in particular. Training exercises could be another. Change of policy another (for whatever reason they can dream up).
A political reason might be to show the public that they are doing something to justify budget allocations or being tough on criminals, etc.

A good reason for the Mexican side would simply be to help stem the flow of weapons from the US.
I've heard of Mexicans saying that it should have been a policy implemented a long time ago.
I'm sure plenty of people could argue that what flows out of the USA is far more dangerous than what get's in.


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Posted 03 November 2008 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE (Scooby @ Oct 29 2008, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No red lights in 30 years ? That's amazing. With that kind of luck, I'd play blackjack. laugh.gif Honestly, you were probably long overdue.
If I'm not mistaken, I'd guess that the process is generally a mechanically random thing (unless somebody know otherwise).


They are doing it to check for firearms entering MX.
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 05:29 PM

QUOTE (Cyanide41 @ Nov 3 2008, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They are doing it to check for firearms entering MX.


About time something was done, but why is the US having to stop Mexican drug gangs from getting cheap guns??? I guess it is cheaper for Mexico to bitch to the US rather than enact their own inspections...

And why not let the Mexican citizens have legal guns? That would level the playing field if gangs/robbers could get shot by innocent civilians when attacked.

No, not a NRA member; just makes sense to me. Is the Mexican government that scarred of a full population armed revolt??? Maybe if they did a better job at governing they wouldn't be???

No, not Mexico bashing; I like it here; just that somethings could improve.
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Posted 17 April 2009 - 03:25 AM

Also not bashing Mexico.... BUT today Pres. Obama is in Mexico City, and there is more talk about inspections going in to Mexico... OK I get it, BUT why does the US have to do it all? Driving or walking into Mexico is EASIER than going into wal-mart almost. Shouldnt the MEX govt take some of the burden of checking things coming into thier own country?

I know, I know, people will get mad because it will make it harder and more time consuming, BUT I have news for ya.. its going to happen! My question is, WHO does it and who should pay for it?

And Yes, I would agree that the MX govt maybe scared to give citizens guns... Just like for years they were scared to even aloow them an education, untill just recently!

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:48 AM

I go across often. They have started inspecting cars before entering Mexican border. It is americans checking the cars. Most of the time they just wave you thru but I have seen them pull cars aside and really inspect them. Also noticed more cars are being inspected at mexican border. The red light comes on every 4 or 5 cars now instead of dozens. I gotten the red light twice this week. They just look in window and ask what is in the bags. I say groceries and they say go on . Never been searched. It is a joke, they would have to check every single vehicle coming thru to stop weapons from coming into the country. Same goes as leaving Mexico. Very few cars really get inspected and most the time the dogs aren't even there to sniff out drugs. There is no way to control what is coming and leaving the countries. It would take to much manpower and time to check every car. There has to be a better way.....
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Posted 17 April 2009 - 11:31 AM

I walk across a couple times a month. Last time I went I noticed a huge increase in the presence of agents walking amongst the line - randomly pulling people out, checking bags, purses. I wasn't selected and I did note that the ones that were chosen were Mexican. I also noticed the activity for those driving in - lots of cars pulled over. We'll see.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 04:22 PM

Yes, last week when I was there, I noticed too that when standing in line, walking across, there were several more agents walking the line.. and to me, thats good, because they stopped the people that walked to the front of the line because they were older or whatever, and made them get in line like the rest of us... I'm sorry but that really makes me mad to see someone walk right past the rest of the people because they are a little older , etc... .. I agree with an agent I heard last time (surprised I agree with them..lol) telling a old old "either get a sentry pass, or take the red bus across" I know this sounds petty.. BUT i get so angry every time I pass across because of this.. And I know that's NOT the reason they are there, BUT since they are , they seem to keep the line in check...

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 11:20 PM

My husband got the alto light 4 days in a row a couple of weeks ago - AND got pulled into secondary in the SENTRI lane twice in two weeks. He was starting to get a complex blink.gif laugh.gif

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 01:34 AM

Are the citizens of USA in agreement that this is necessary?
Check this out!
Should I be surprised that you don't see this on main street media?

http://www.aclu.org/...onfreezone.html


Kind of like Mexico no warrant necessary just someone or some cop to say or think you may have drugs or what ever.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 01:40 AM

QUOTE (richsinc @ Nov 3 2008, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why is the US having to stop Mexican drug gangs from getting cheap guns??? I guess it is cheaper for Mexico to bitch to the US rather than enact their own inspections...

Dunno, Rich, do you really want to see as much of a back-up coming into Mexico as going out? Fact is, not every country is as fascist as the U.S. Once upon a time border controls were non-existent, for better or for worse. I've crossed into a number of countries without having to deal with the foolishness that we put up with in San Ysidro.

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And why not let the Mexican citizens have legal guns?

Um, read our federal constitution. Here in Mexico we don't want to foment the same environment that produced the revolution of 1910. Even so, what with Calderón, another revolution is fairly likely.

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Is the Mexican government that scarred of a full population armed revolt??? Maybe if they did a better job at governing they wouldn't be?

Again, read our federal constitution or a bit of our twentieth-century history. The "decena trágica" is not something we would care to revisit.

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No, not Mexico bashing; I like it here; just that somethings could improve.

You would do better not to measure Mexico by a gringo yardstick. "Improve" is a subjective term. Mexico is what it is, take it or leave it. Personally, I suspect that Mexico has been sliding downhill ever since Lázaro Cárdenas left office. But all shall be well, according to Lady Juliana of Norwich, and all manner of thing shall be well. Why, we might even survive the current depravations of the neoliberales.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 02:00 AM

QUOTE (xolotl @ Apr 17 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You would do better not to measure Mexico by a gringo yardstick. "Improve" is a subjective term. Mexico is what it is, take it or leave it. Personally, I suspect that Mexico has been sliding downhill ever since Lázaro Cárdenas left office. But all shall be well, according to Lady Juliana of Norwich, and all manner of thing shall be well. Why, we might even survive the current depravations of the neoliberales.

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Dear Sir: Just a little confused what is neoliberales
This is what I found for a definition
Neroliberalism: A political orientation originating in the 1960s; blends liberal political views with an emphasis on economic growth
A person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties
A person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets
With minimally restricted freedom in commerce

Definition laissenz-faire:
With minimally restricted freedom in commerce
The doctrine that government should not interfere in commercial affairs

Like I said I am confused what is wrong with that?

JM




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